Sebastian - Art Journey

[gregorya]

Oh, I see. Glad you're felling better.

[LesleyCarol]

Okay, these make a lot more sense after watching the video.

One thing I'd say is to push the forms more and make them into complete shapes. Right now it looks like your loosely drawing the shapes and then focusing on the contour of the body. I would make it look more like a mannequin and focus on the shapes more.
Also, the shoulder blades are a little small.

The overall proportions are good and I think you really captured the illusion of volume!

[Da_Bingus]

Okay, these make a lot more sense after watching the video.

One thing I'd say is to push the forms more and make them into complete shapes. Right now it looks like your loosely drawing the shapes and then focusing on the contour of the body. I would make it look more like a mannequin and focus on the shapes more.
Also, the shoulder blades are a little small.

The overall proportions are good and I think you really captured the illusion of volume!

Hey Lesley I'm not as active on cubebrush as i want to be lol, I'm mostly spending my time now on artschool discord server here is the link if you are interested: https://discord.gg/zKfZpnRT

Anyway I drew this without seeing your feedback, I think tho that being closer to the ref is overall more beneficial because I was already doing the mannequin thingy at the beginning of artschool.

I drew this with a feedback I got on discord it said to try and apply muscles on it.

[Da_Bingus]

Also update,
I was told to practice lvl 3-4 from this video

[LesleyCarol]

Ah okay I was on discord earlier this year but I missed out on a lot because of my time zone and didn't get that much help/critique on there. Glad to hear it's working out for you though!

I suggested focusing more on the shapes so you can get a better feel for dimension when draw the figure. I'd try to do a few without reference and then move onto muscles. I've learned that doing the muscles on top of the mannequin studies can make them come out a little stiff so I've been studying everything separately recently.
But as usual, it's up to you!

[Da_Bingus]

Yea, the discord server used to be like that but recently its gotten much better.
I mean i get critique with in like 10min - 2 h depending on when i post my drawings.

[Da_Bingus]

Hey! No updates today I was just doing art lol.
Today I did more construction of the human body And anatomy. Let me know how It looks (hands and feet are traced bcs idk how to draw them yet )
The one on the left is my main study while the ones on the right are construction I did from imagination just trying to see where I'm lacking. Let me know how I did

[LesleyCarol]

Heyo! I did a paint-over of the muscles and added notes! I did my best to stay close to Marc's mannequin. Do some individual leg studies.
Let me know if you have any questions!

[Da_Bingus]

Hey! Thank you very much for the paint over!
For the muscles of the legs I used Marc's 3d model in same position, but yea I do agree that I should probably do separate leg studies. I was told on discord that I'm good enough to move onto practicing drawing construction and apply my knowledge on top of them.

[LesleyCarol]

Oh yeah I saw the posts you made I think I missed the construction comments though, but they gave good advice on using refs and practicing on something fun.
I think if you also be more cautious about overlapping forms and the general shapes before you build you'll be on a good path

[Da_Bingus]

Thank you! Yea I got it in the dms from doomblick! He is giving me advice in there! For example, just now he told me to do gesture figure drawings instead of the circles i was doing

[Da_Bingus]

Hello!
I have done more exercises! I was focusing on the construction of the figures but this time I used other people's artworks! (Another advice I got from discord) Its traced for now since I'm not used to the proportions but next time I will try to do it without tracing Let me know how I did

[leo.glt95]

Hey! I hope this helps and my writing isnt too shitty lmao

Also, tell us what did you learn by doing this?

[Da_Bingus]

Well the reason I traced was bcs I have a hard time drawing the pelvis in right position. So inwas trying to figure it out but from now on I will be drawing figures with gesture

[Da_Bingus]

Also I used marc construction method

Thats why the deltoid is a bit weird
And yes i definitely have forgotten about the x on the side of the head thank you for pointing it out
BUT anyway Thank you so much for the draw over!

[leo.glt95]

No it's a great exercise i think, doing so you can see what shapes the artists use, what proportions, and you might try them later, it's really fun to play around with different proportions etc ! But you need to focus on that

I think if you're still focussed on anatomy its better to stick to real models
If it's a style exercise then sure go ahead and study other artists' way of drawing the anatomy !

Both are good exercise but different goal I think !

But the most important thing is be sure to actually learn from them, don't just trace and think it's gonna be useful, that's why marc's made a video about observation skill being the most important !

Good luck with those

[Da_Bingus]

No it's a great exercise i think, doing so you can see what shapes the artists use, what proportions, and you might try them later, it's really fun to play around with different proportions etc ! But you need to focus on that

Yea that was the goal of the exercise I didn't just aimlessly trace I was trying to think about the position of everything like the ribcage and pevlis etc Thats why i mentioned in the post that I traced bcs I'm not used to stylised proportions

[Da_Bingus]

I think if you're still focussed on anatomy its better to stick to real models If it's a style exercise then sure go ahead and study other artists' way of drawing the anatomy !

Yea! you are correct, for now My goal is to study the Overall construction of the body that's why from now on I will be doing gesture figure drawing! And then apply my muscle knowledge on top!(I was told that I'm good enough to move onto drawing muscles ontop of actual figiures) But like many people have pointed out in discord I spend too much time on each part so it takes me years to be done which is not good. And yes I'm interested in this style So the reason I'm using other people art instead of real life people is because I got feedback that told me to do something fun and also i got kinda bored with real life stuff

[Da_Bingus]

Good luck with those

And thank you! I try my very best

[LesleyCarol]

I think you did great drawing the forms, they feel full and in perspective. The lines are also really clean and I like the way you shaded to show where the planes are facing.

Also, responding to the idea that you spent too much time on each part, I think saying it'll take you years is a bit of an exaggeration. It's been 7 months and you're already on the full body and have a good understanding of the head.
If you look at Jenner's work, she was at a high level when she started and she spent two years on Art School to get where she is now.
Take as much time as you need.