Xybb (Sascha) - Art School Journey

[Xybb]

@Lockenheim Thank you for pointing this out. I think this seems to be a reccuring recommendation when learning 3-point-perspective, but it kind of limits it's use cases. I tried this approach for last weeks submission, but it simply didn't work when trying to stick closer to my thumbnail. To be fair, 2 point perspective might also just be fine for this piece, but since it's the 3-pp assignement I just went for it.

@mitsuki-youko Thank you so much, it means a lot <3.

Catching up on my current progress, I did manage to setup the basic construction and also rotated the wheel a bit so that it's no longer perfectly in line with the wall. Some minor changes I will try and some refinement to do, but all in all the layin is about complete.

Also, managed to fry my brain doing this:

A perfect cube in 1/2/3-point-perspective rotated around it's center with it being constant size. It is in fact quite straight forward, but for some reason I really couldn't comprehend how to do it for 3 point perspective. I think it's correct accounting for some inaccuracies while drawing.

This also could be used to set up perfect grids for any desired viewing angle. I am still not quite sure I understand all the geometric implications but it definitely improved my understanding of perspective.

Also, for some reason I couldn't find any ressources on how construct a perfect cube in 3-pp without relying on guessing a circle in perspective, so I had to make up my own method. If someones interested I'll make a tutorial on my approach. Or, even better, if someone knows of an existing tutorial I'd love to read it.

[mitsuki-youko]

Also, managed to fry my brain doing this:

yoo i was frying my brain on that very topic this weekend lool would be nice if you made a tutorial on this XD i'd love to see it

short anim here:

Tried practicing perspective today.. the changing of v points for some reason is very hard for me lool [image] 3 Point perspective gate WIP: [image] [image] Created some designs for these Rabbit ppl i have in my world - they are side characters but figured it'd be cool to have rabbit ppl guards to guard this gate [:smile:] [image] [image] I reallly like the row of bunny ppl sitting up there. they look SO cool [image]

[Xybb]

I've decided to go ahead and share my process for 1-pp and 2-pp. Will continue with 3-pp a bit later, as it's quite a lot of work to setup all the pictures and text.

Below is only a preview / summary of the process so far, as it's a bit to large for a forum post. Here is the link to the complete guide on imgur.

[Xybb]

I've updated my initial imgur-Post with the full approach from 1-point to 3-point perspective and it should work to create a perfect cube in any 3-point-perspective setup. The presentation is a bit lackluster, but I hope it's clear enough to be of some use.

Also, some progress was made on my perspective assignement:

I've inset the inner cylinder a bit per Marcs recommendation as to counteract the perspective distortion. I've also included a wooden ring, although I might need to fix it. I lost some of my construction lines somewhere along the way and being a bit lazy instead of redoing them I put in a bit of guesswork. It looks a bit off to me but I can't tell if it is because of distortion or just because I was inaccurate.

Any feedback for the assignement so far or the perspective guide is more than welcome =).

[Xybb]

Hey all =) Finished the construction and also corrected the inner circular support as I wasn't really happy with the inaccuracies.

Also had to move the bridge in front a bit to make room for the flaps or whatever they are called :D. Really happy how they turned out as the whole image is starting to come together.

Now that all that is done, I'll start to add some detail and will see how it turns out. Not a hundred percent sure how I will handle the door area, but really glad that the tedious part is done.

I am excited to hear what you think.

[Lockenheim]

Dang this is looking really fantastic and super accurate! I wonder if it would be worth making it a bit less accurate and getting rid of one of the black lines on the wheel at the 9:00 position. I know that it is accurate but these lines really close together draws so much attention over anything else in the imagine. Maybe lightening the back lines on that spoke would help! Overall you really killed it on this and I can only imagine how difficult it was. Keep it up!

[Xybb]

Thank you Locke =). I agree, the lines there are quite an eyesore but it didn't bother me that much for now. I'll probably do another pass on top once I have my details in place where I focus on lineweight. I think it will be fine once I pushed some more important lines and made those parallel lines a lot lighter.

As for challenge, the most challenging part was not getting confused with all the lines:

To be fair, I didn't have to look at all of them most of the time, but it got quite messy in the end. The construction problems I talked to you about really didn't have that much of an impact on this piece, so most of it was just tedious instead.

[Xybb]

Only a small update since I haven't done much this week. I will come back to the 3-pp assignement, but for now I decided to move on to term 3. Here's the 4-pp assignement from term 2 and the barrel from the ZBrush assignement in term 3 (done in Blender).

[Lockenheim]

Looking great Sascha! I have been putting off this perspective assignment for so long! I should really do it! Keep up the good work!

[prinzmoana]

I really like IV because it makes me wonder, why is this broken and how long (bc of the already big tree) Maybe you can develope this piece one day ^.^

[Xybb]

@Lockenheim I must admit that I wasn't excited about that exercise either, but now I can say I've done all of the term 2 exercises and move on without feeling guilty :D.

@prinzmoana I think IV is interesting and I'll come back to the whole theme eventually. As I was working on those thumbnails I formed a story around this scene, so there's definitely a lot of exciting stuff I'd like to put there. I just don't really feel like my skill is up to par, although I doubt that feeling will ever go away.

As for what I've been doing this week, basically all of my time spent drawing was working through the anatomy 2 video. I didn't expect it to take up that much time, but I am glad I took the time to draw all of the examples myself. Even while working from the video a couple of errors crept in, but all in all it should be fine.

Next up will be a couple of the assignements and working on the clothing video. Still a lot of work to do if I want to complete a worthwhile submission for sunday.

Take care guys, it always motivates me a lot to read what you think about my stuff =).

[Lockenheim]

Lovely notes! I really enjoyed learning the anatomy section, probably one of my favorite things so far. I took pretty detailed notes on the anatomy if you have any intrest in the notes just let me know I can send them your way.

[Xybb]

I managed to get some work done for the submission yesterday. Now that most of the videos are out of the way I'll likely have more to show this week and the next. I am planing to work on more of the clothing and anatomy assignements this week and maybe start with the ZBrush assignements. I've also taken a sneak peak at some of the assignements of the later terms and I looking forward to those. For now, here is the clothing study I did for yesterdays submission:

@Lockenheim For some reason, to me the anatomy session felt a bit dry. I feel like I learned a lot, but at the same time it was quite hard to stay focussed on the lessons. If it's not to much work I'd love to see your notes, I think it might be interesting to see what others have gathered from the lesson and see what they think is important.

[mitsuki-youko]

woah this study looks amazing! love your shading!

[Opal]

i really love the shading on this study i think you did an exceptional job! Keep up the hard work.

[prinzmoana]

Man this shading looks so good 🤯😄 Almost like photobashed xD Really really good man 👌

[Xybb]

Hey Guys,

clothing study assignement. Not entirely happy, as the reference was a much thicker material. It still lacks a bit of thickness and I do think there should be more folds on her arms, but other than that I am quite satisfied.

Would love some feedback, especially on how to treat the edges of the shirt so that it feels thicker.

[Xybb]

For my submission yesterday I did an additional clothing study:

I already adressed some of the issues that were pointed out in the critique. Let me know what you think =).

Also worked through a good chunk of the ZBrush videos and will probably prepare my assignment for this weeks submission.

[Opal]

that's exquisitely done! i love how natural it looks the lighting and folds are done very well. You excelled at this study in my opinion and i can tell exactly how thick the material is. Keep it up, also if you have any tips i would love to hear them.

[Xybb]

Thank you so much, it means a lot!

As for tips, I can only offer what I focus on during painting. First I try to get the general values down without any folds whatsoever basically treating it as a basic shape and mostly using the lighting that's already provided in the reference. I think it's important to remember the overall form and that the folds just sit on top of that form. Then I start with the folds between tension point, using only the highlights or shadows, doesn't really matter, to get them in place. After that it's just shading according to the lightsource.

Really, most important is to remember that the folds sit on top of a volume. If the shading of that basic volume isn't correct the shading of the folds won't work either.