ART WAR | 3D | Black Chameleon SARU | independhans

alien_hand 2016-12-22 21:08:51 UTC #25

I agree c overall I think has the best flow to the outfit whIle still being that sleek and sexy stealth suit. I'd this about swum ching the white with black and for accent colours beetles often have amazing teas reds pinks and purples that you can use to bring a little flair to a predominantly black sneaky suit. Just my thoughts

independhans 2016-12-22 21:57:29 UTC #26

@Kreyhardt I start modeling I go ahead for C
@alien_hand So C is a way to go. Do you mean the colours beetles has as reds pinks and purples so my suit could be a little more colorful? And what is swum ching?

alien_hand 2016-12-23 00:22:23 UTC #27

Oh gawwwddd hahah I'm using my phone at work and that's what it got autocorrected to. i meant to say I'd switch the white with the black in your concept and if you wanted to have some accent colour then betales have lots of cool colours to choose from.

independhans 2016-12-23 12:32:23 UTC #28

Edit: 3:
I am not happy with my conzept. I try to get some inspiration from Iris Van Herpen and the colorful beetles, thanks @alien_hand for that, but my character is too complex for a one image alone. a wanted to do a pilot-engineer-spy-time travel clone girl. I should remove something from my backstory to make the design more straightforward. I want the story readable in on image. And I think now a pilot is never armored so heavy.

Do you like the Design? What should I do?
1) All good just, stick with the design, make the materials more readable
2) kill your darling, redesign it completely, remove, part of the concept

C & C welcome.

independhans 2016-12-30 19:09:28 UTC #29

Happy New Years!
Do you like the Color Designs?
Help me choose direction.
Edit: note to myself

A. keep it simple.
B. finish your conzept.
C. Don't model, just do sculpt
D. Don't redesign.

Edit 2:

After now 24 hours nobody give just a simple answer. I tent to do design A or F

rath-nikhil 2017-01-01 22:20:49 UTC #30

Looking good!
I like the A (the lavender one).
Perhaps do more concepts of all the detail pieces so it will give you a better idea of how to model/edge flow, unless your design is similar to the pacific rim ones.
Also I suggest doing the base mesh in zbrush so you have proper proportions to start.

independhans 2017-01-02 13:20:23 UTC #31

@rath-nikhil Thanks a lot for give me motivation to move on.

Rath-Nikhil you are right, I definitely should detail pieces in concept before move into sculpting further than a base mesh or I have to figure it out in 3d.

I must admit I am a bit scared to screw the next steps up. But I think you gonna can point it out if I mess up anatomy/proportions/shape. Because I will make a lot mistakes. My favorite learning method is making mistakes. but one thing you should avoid that is to give up.

So the New Year begins after one day relaxing let's do this.

alien_hand 2017-01-03 08:56:46 UTC #32

hey man trying to make sens of those tubes and stuff. was gonna take a break but i did a quick sketch for you i hope this helps and that im not treading on your toes or anything

alien_hand 2017-01-03 08:57:08 UTC #33

oh and excuse my hand writing

independhans 2017-01-03 12:19:29 UTC #34

@alien_hand Thank you for the quick sketch. To get an air tank is a good Idea.
Your Suggestion is not to hide key marks of the body.
What is a Fulton Recovery?

alien_hand 2017-01-03 13:19:59 UTC #35

It's like a reverse parachute for quick extraction out of zones where an lz doesn't exist. And also straps are cool

Well looking at your original reference and stuff you wanted to have a bit of a sexy look so my sketch was using practice things like a extraction harness that wold embellish womanly features. For the base suit I'd say good reference is the metal gear solid beauty bosses and also the female cyborg from metal gear revengance.

rath-nikhil 2017-01-04 02:33:03 UTC #36

Happy New Year!
Concepting is challenging! I usually do a basic sketch with the major details, then use them as guides to add additional details directly on the model. 
 On a seperate sheet I detail the various parts by them selves which also helps.
 And make sure that the detailing is something that is definitely seen in your final, meaning if you spend too long detailing a certain part you might leave out other areas and the model might look incomplete (Reminder for me as well lol)
And its a learning experience for everyone and more importantly an opportunity to make new friends and push ones limits!

zerojs 2017-01-04 12:08:21 UTC #38

so many good ref images /research here!

independhans 2017-01-04 20:13:48 UTC #39

@zerojs thanks, appreciated that.
@rath-nikhil Thanks for the workflow how you do concepting
@alien_hand I can't find good references on that but, I have allready some references, I should utilize them

Update: I have done a new more detailed design

Comments needed

independhans 2017-01-09 19:39:36 UTC #40

I feel like The legs could something more complex but not sure.

Edit:

More Details on the Legs, added some space navigation elements.

independhans 2017-01-10 15:18:35 UTC #41

Do you dislike my conzept? any thoughts?

briandolan89 2017-01-10 16:26:07 UTC #42

Your concept looks fine. I saw that you started modeling a base mesh. I would just start pushing on that at this point. The contest is already half over and you're still concepting. Not that theres anything wrong with that but I would just start modeling it out. Just really dig into that and concept more as you go along. The character looks cool but at this point it should already be pretty fleshed out 3D wise. I only say that because you've been here since the beginning. a lot of the other people concepting are new. You got this! @independhans

independhans 2017-01-10 17:45:59 UTC #43

Good to hear that, thanks alot.
Right I should design now as I go and start sculpting.

alien_hand 2017-01-11 11:17:32 UTC #44

Yeah i agree with brian, you can figure alot of stuff in 3d zbrush is great for putting shoving something in to see how it looks and adjust... the over all concept I'd say is kinda looking too busy. need to simplify it... im not in your head but i feel those tubes in the middle dont make much sense or serve much of a purpose....
this is what comes to mind when i think of your character

independhans 2017-01-11 12:37:43 UTC #45

@alien_hand
Thanks for posting the Cybergirl concepts. These are nice.

I could knew it that my spy-pilot-engineer timetravel would look to busy, since I have a to complex job-structure build in and I think the engineering part is not visible at the moment.

I may add the engineer job into my project later or don´t.