ART WAR - Round 1 Finalists

[gyuladzsi]

If you go to the first post of the neon assassin one, there was a concept done, looks like it was painted over the base body.

The other one idk, theres a concept blockout in the first post but nothing submitted in the final so it seems you're right about that one...

[rath-nikhil]

True, its confusing.
Most 3D artists rarely do a proper sketch. In that light I feel that a reference board should have sufficed as a concept sheet, since most of the concept is realized directly in the sculpt.
Maybe something to consider in the next art war possibly for the 3D art section?

On the 2D side concept to final seemed more readily apparent.

I appreciate all the art, and personally I'd have a hard time picking any winners at all for a contest with so much variety.
To me every submission made in this contest feels like a winner in its own right.

And I don't have any intention of getting anyone disqualified mind you.
Heck I'd increase the 30 to 60 (maybe even 90) and have more rounds just to celebrate all the uniqueness in this one contest.
It was great seeing all the ideas come to life.

[ESL]

I can see your point, but it was pretty much stated and understood that if you don't follow the requirements/rules.. you won't be counted as a valid entry.
You also have to respect the judges and Marc. They're professionals, which means time is money/personal space. The fact they even agreed to judge is something to be grateful for alone. Sure, everyone spent a fair share of time working on their individual pieces, but we're not here to hand out participation awards like we have in our Weekly Challenges. Sounds tough, but you're able to look and appreciate everyone's work by going to their respective entry submissions.

[rath-nikhil]

I never implied any disrespect. I'm a professional myself.
I don't consider myself or any other professional or amateur artist deserving of any less respect just because we're not as far along in our work.
The journey alone is deserving of respect. We all impact each other in it. And I'm grateful for that.
Don't take things out of context.

I was just pointing out there were entries that seemed to have been valid even though they didn't follow the requirements and I was just confused about that.
Initially the main judges were meant to judge the winners once. This was changed to have 30 finalists judged by the cube brush staff. I don't see why that number couldn't have been increased considering that seemed to be a spot decision, not that you need to, I mean this is your contest.
I just think there could be a few things to learn for future contests, and not just for the contestants but for cubebrush as well so as to make the experience better for everyone.

[alemja]

@marc and to all of the other moderators, since there seems to be some misunderstandings and such about final submissions and what qualifies, is there any way or place we can make suggestions to improve the process next time? For example I think a thing that would be very helpful for next time is to have a "Final Submission" thread where everyone makes a post with their finished entry. It might be easier for everyone to catch errors that way.

[Acolet]

@alemja feel free to make suggestions here, both Marc and we read the replies (and/or I can collect them at the end and pass them to him). Not sure if there will be enough suggestions to warrant a separate topic.

As to the "Final Submission" thread, it's a good idea, but it also could turn very tricky - the 2D category alone has 850 topics, even if only, say one fourth finished, that would still make for a veery long topic.

[alemja]

Cool thanks!
I see your point about a final submission thread but the current alternative is to look through all of those threads individually which seems even more tedious. I image it could also lead to some entries being accidentally missed. Other than a single thread, I'm not sure what a better alternative would be on a forum-like setting or what your forum platform is capable of. Maybe people just upload the beauty image to the final thread with a link to a post with the rest of their images to cut back on the number of images that need to load?

I would be interested in seeing other people chime in too. The Art War was an awesome experience and it would be great to see it be a regular thing, as I think the art community really needs something like this.

[ESL]

So, I'm not going to sit here and argue that anyone should be disrespected or given less respect because that shouldn't be. This contest was supposed to build each other up instead of people arguing about results or whatever may be, but misunderstandings do unfortunately happen.
It's our second big contest overall, one from our previous forums, so there are still things to address and learn from. If you have any other suggestions, please do present them!

[nevs38]

There should be more challenges like this. It will help so many artists, more so .. rediscover their capabilities as well.

This is one of the challenges on cgsociety :

http://www.phantomworks.xyz

Maybe the next Artwar can be based on this process but much more automated.

[marc]

There's a lot of things we can and will improve for sure - we want to implement a submission process within your contest topic where you get to "send in" your final. It would only accept the correct size so you can't mess it up and would flag your topic as "completed" or something letting us know the entry is valid for easy review. This would also make it so we wouldn't have to check the date and time of the last update to see if it was sent in on time.

We still need to go through each topic to check no funny business is going on but this would def save a ton of time and would give you guys better confirmation the thing is sent in and your work is done.

Just to be clear though, no entry was missed in the ArtWar! It took a while but every single topic was checked.

Only those who respected the submission rules 100% stand a chance at winning.

[mylee]

sorry @Acolet if you thought that i was starting to spread false suspicions, but to tell you honestly, that didnt even came to my mind and it is not my intention. I based my opinion from Malcom ( a moderator like you) when he said that it was indeed the size that disqualified @juan 's entry, thror. Common sense kicked in and i thought that if a size was the reason or lets just say there were some uncomplied requirements for it to be disqualified, then no entry with the same issue can never be qualified regardless, right?. Again im sorry if i caused any false suspicions. CHEERS!

[Acolet]

@mylee Yes, I understand, it's all good

[fio]

Guys, it seems that I didn't have the chance to participate in this round, just because this forum compressed all my pics. My concept sheet is 1638*1638, I don't even have this resolution on my computer! My original size is 2048*2048 and 2048*3398. I just uploaded my work and then went to my vacation. Now I'm back and...
I know, it is to late to discuss it and to reconsider all, and probably it is my fault but I didn't even think that this situation is possible. I asked moderators to check my work because of rules in faq, and she/he kindly said that I'm ok, and that was 2 days before the contest end. =(
Why, God, why you punish me so strong?! It is sooo unfair Т_Т
Anyway, u're all cool and thanks for the possibility <3

[gyuladzsi]

yeah same happened to me initially, I ended up hosting some of my images offsite since they were being resized apparently at random.

[Khulim]

Congrats to all the finalists. This inspired me to get even better!

[Acolet]

@fio to be fair, you asked me if your character is fullbody enough, not about the size. I probably didn't notice the wrong size because there were a lot of last-minute questions that I needed to answer
Anyway, it would be impossible for moderators to go through every single topic and personally check if everyone submitted their entry as they should. You couldn't really expect us to do it.

However, your work was not disqualified because of the wrong size - there is an entry in top 30 whose images also got resized. The automatic resizing was taken into judges' consideration.

[fio]

Yeah, right. Good to know =) Thank you.

[HorizonDweller]

Hi everyone! Don't forget to stop by the weekly challenge and vote !!!

[rgdraw]

Congrats to all the finalist, it was a great experience, a bit sad I didn't make it at least to the top 30 but it was fun
Waiting for the next contest now

[rocketalex]

Oh, so it was demanded for 3D artists to make concepts? Oooh...