CYP2C19's Art School Journey

[CYP2C19]

Random Update #2

Aalright, Here's another quick little update, I've started properly trying to draw Forms in Perspective, I should've started this a long time ago, but I just don't know when I'm "ready" for the next step..

I tried to incorporate all the different "elements" into my drawings, everything such as Deformation, Connections, Overlapping, and Interactive Shading though I might've gone a bit overboard with the shading, mostly cause I'm experimenting.
As always Critique is welcome!.

1st Attempt

2nd Attempt, I tried to use brighter values instead of really dark gray or almost pitch black, but it came out a little flat looking imo, I'll also do more soon but I need to fix my damb sleep schedule, It's 6am here..

[snakker]

Oh man these are really awesome, especially like the first one!

For me something about the square twisty form at the top of the second attempt feels off, I think the silhouette where lines intersect make me think of a concave surface but the light seems to hit uniformly hinting at a flat surface, maybe the fix would be to make the intersection more seamless or add some shading to suggest it is truly concave if that was what you were going for

cheers

[CYP2C19]

Thank you for your kind words Snakker!. And yeah i see what you mean, And i think the issue was my linework being off with the whole cube thing, I wanted it to be a flat surface but my linework obviously says otherwise.
Thank you for the feedback anyways!, I'll try to keep my linework in line with what I'm imagining next time!.

[CYP2C19]

Random Update #3

Currently working on fixing my sleeping schedule cause I flipped it completely earlier this week, so during the day I kept practicing Volumes in Perspective, and I've also started doing some DrawaBox practices secretly, currently on my 4th day of doing them instead of gesture drawing, just taking a temporary break cause my current style of gesture drawings just feel so boring to me, and unrewarding, which is why I'm still working on getting better with the FORCE Method and The Bean.

I also found an older shading practice, and man.. looking back on it, (even though it's probably just a few weeks old) it's pretty bad.. Some don't make any sense at all in terms of light direction or just the general Volume.

I also forgot to upload a Figure drawing I did yesterday.

And here's todays Volumes in Perspective, I didn't really do much, I'm on 4-5 hrs of sleep trying to fix my schedule so I didn't have a lot of energy.
I tried to keep my line art in line with what I had imagined, and when it comes to light I'm not sure if I did it right, so any critique is welcomed!

And thank you for checking in on this random update, much love!

[mitsuki-youko]

ooh your volumes in perspective is really good!

tho i think that ball on the bottom would still have a little bit more light at the top half or 1/3 of it at least - but it b lookin noice

[snakker]

Great work
Loving the volumes in perspective. I think the shadow on the far right wouldn’t curve back as much but I could be wrong, regardless really cool. This seems to be a great exercise for 3d drawing

I’ve checked out a bit on that drawing with force series of books, looks like ideas of how Glen Keane would draw his disney characters conveying lots of dynamism. Do you feel it’s a good read or easy to understand?

Cheers

[CYP2C19]

Thank you Mitsuki!, I also do feel like that bottom sphere is a bit dark, but I was also scared of making it too light as it's in a fairly dark area in general, But you're right, Should've been a fair bit brighter, thank you for the feedback!.

[CYP2C19]

That shadow on the far right was actually not supposed to be a curved shadow even though it really looks like it now that you say it, the top part of that shadow was supposed to be the cylinder that extends from the far left to right, and the bottom part was from the 2nd cylinder that connects from the long boii triangle in the middle to the top right.
But thank you for the feedback, I need to watch out for connecting shadows that form a different shape that isn't supposed to be there.

About the Force books, I actually use the Youtube Series on the Force Method and I'd recommend you to check them out rather than books for now to get the general gist of it if you're interested. For me personally it's a rather easy to understand concept, but actually executing them isn't as easy as they make it seem. I mean duuh, they're professionals xp.

Here's a couple of the videos if you'd want to them check out!.
I won't post all videos as that'd extend this post more than it is

Improving Line Quality and Rhythm - FORCE Series Part 1

How to Simplify the Motion of the Torso - The Bean

[snakker]

Awesome, thanks for the share, lots of valuable info and interesting ideas here

cheers!

[CYP2C19]

Random Update #4
Currently 8am here, and I thought I'd do a quick little update after a 4 Day break, Friends and a new game happened .

Trying to get back in to the groove of things, I did my typical roughly 2 hour Draw a Box assignments that I'll share once I've reached day 30, Just cause I'm really curious to see what 30 days will do to my pen control.

First little practice I did was a single Construction, just to make sure I didn't forget how to do it, I am a fair bit rusty so Imma have to start doing more of them again.

Then I worked on the Bean for the Gesture Drawings again, A quick little 30 Min session, and majority of the beans took roughly 30 Seconds to draw, which is a big improvement over my initial minute+ per bean.

And Finally, (yes I didn't draw much, I'm still pretty rusty and slow after this break) Is my Volumes in Perspective study, I'm still not sure how light works at all, But eey, gotta live with it until I learn how light works properly.
As usual any feedback is greatly appreciated!, and keep getting those Art Gains!.

[mitsuki-youko]

LMAO that sun is hilarious XDDD very nice shapes and shading!

[CYP2C19]

Haha thank you, I didn't have any ideas for a light source so that happened xp

[CYP2C19]

Random Update #5

Did my Typical 4 Hour Draw a Box Session which I'm still keeping secret.. Ssh you didn't read any of this.
And yes I said yesterday that It's a typical 2 hour session with Draw a Box, But that was wrong, I just took the time today and it's roughly 4 hours per session xp

Then I just went straight to my Volumes In Perspective practices again, took roughly 2 hours. Not really as finished as it could've been but I really wanted to get back into constructing people again cause I'm really getting rusty

And just 2 quick little constructions, I really need to get back into these again cause I struggled a bit with these, roughly 1 hour for 2 when that was 30 mins for 2 before, and my proportions are more off than usual too.

And yes that's all I had to post, the Draw a Box sessions really take up A LOT of time.
I still love you all, GO GET THAT ART EXP!.

[CYP2C19]

Random Update #6
Maan time is going by so fast, I was supposed to post an update yesterday but I got distracted by games and fell asleep early.

Starting off yesterday and today with my usual 3-4 hour DrawaBox session to help my pen control, It's still in secrecy though, so sshh..

Yesterday I did another bean study, Still need to incorporate it into actual gesture drawings, maybe I'll do that over the weekend.

I also went "back to the basics" and did some quick little boxes in perspective, cause I really felt myself struggling to draw boxes in perspective for my construction attempts 2 days ago.

Then I did 2 constructions yesterday, and 2 today. I'm slightly time constrained due to my DrawaBox sessions taking so long. But I will not stop doing them regardless.

And to finish things off, I decided to dip my toes into the very basics of the Head construction, I haven't started with anatomy just yet, I wanted to get feedback first to see if there was anything to improve on with the very basics.
Any feedback here is GREATLY appreciated, I don't know if I'm doing things right here.

Alright, Thanks for checking out this little update. I wish you the very best for this weekend, take care of yourself! ♥

[snakker]

Nice studies, I think those head block ins are excellent. I always struggle connecting heads to bodies, make necks too long or don't see the connection too clearly/make the head too big or too small. So at least from my experience those would be some super basics that you could look into as well, as those can be established very early on (and or fixed with liquify XD

cheers

[CYP2C19]

Thank you so much for the valuable feedback and kind words Snakker!, Next session I'll definitely look into everything you just mentioned, much appreciated!.

[CYP2C19]

Rando' Update #7

As usual, drawabox exercises take like 4-5hrs each day, and it really started to bother me, I didn't feel like I was getting anywhere in terms of my actual studies, all I did was trying to improve my pencontrol by drawing roughly 480 straight lines and a boat load of ghosted lines, ghosted panels and cylinders/circles each day, It has improved my pencontrol to some extent, mainly straight lines, but I'm only on day 11 so I've still got 19 more days before I'm posting anything related to it, So I've decided to do the drawabox exercises every other day instead of daily, hopefully I can feel like I'm actually doing something xp..

Anyways here is what I've been doing the 4 days I've been gone, minus yesterday, had a sudden blood sugar drop so I didn't get anything done.

Starting with gesture drawings, I tried to practice more on the Force method, Now I'm still miles away from being good at them, But I find these way more fun to draw as they're not just stick figures, Each took roughly 5 mins on average.

Here's some more basic head constructions, No anatomy cause I haven't started yet, I want to get a good grip on the basics first. C&C is very welcome on everything!.

And to finish it off, just some more body constructions.

Wish you all the best onwards!.

[snakker]

Good stuff, not much to critique. Those head studies are very clean. Cylinder skellies are easy to read and gestures also.

As an aside I recommend increasing contrast of lowering brightness of the gestures when you post the gesture studies for easier viewing as I note them a little on the light side

cheers, keep at em!

[prinzmoana]

480 straight lines for 4-5 hrs? Seems a lot xD And I'm honestly not even sure if this is so helpful 😅 There is a video from Marc, where he says something like: Learn smart, 20/80 rule... and so on. Basically use 20% time to learn 80% effectively.
Maybe you could spice the exercise up by drawing simple objects (cubes, cylinders,...) in perspective and try to draw them with straight lines? So you would at least combine some exercises 🤔Idk I'm not an expert 🙈

I'm sure you'll find a solution that suits your need and if you feel like you don't really learn sth from this exercise, it maybe means you're good enough to move on and tackle sth new 😄

[snakker]

I agree with that line of thought. One of the things that makes me feel I am progressing a lot faster than ever before is that I am varying all sorts of exercises, and in doing so I am both reinforcing things from other exercises and lso learning new things. And also, somehow starting to actually imagine and dream art stuff that was never in my head spontaneously, it sounds silly, but really kind of opens a pandoras box for me

I think, I used to be like you in a lot of things, trying to perfect one thing before moving to the next, but now I just go with the flow a little. More imperfect, just doing the motions and believing in the process, but also aware of my weaknesses along the way

Wow that was a lot of thinking, im going to go for a cup of tea or something

Cheers!