Sara - Art School Journey

[Gordon003]

I recommend showing the construction sketches you done of the faces (e.g. sketches on the left vs finished work on the right) so we can see more on your facial placement and how you break it up into simple shapes as I feel you haven't worked much on that part yet.

That anime drawing looks good. Well done

[summertopso2]

Got it, will do that from now on

[snakker]

Yo cool manga drawing there
I recommend practicing with reference, you learn tons that way and doing the head from imagination only to test yourself and cement knowledge on the construction
Always practicing all the steps when constructing

Cheers and keep it up!

[summertopso2]

OK, I applied both advices (showing the sketches instead on lineart, although I erased some lines because it looked confusing, and using a reference). It looks better than the standard face I was doing

[Pattu_w]

Looking good, the improvement is visible, way better to get the face proportions right with the reference on the side, eventually it will get engraved in your brain.

[snakker]

Nice, looking better already. Much easier to analyze now

Do note the side plane (the small ellipse) will usually dissect around the upper outer (superior lateral) angle of the brow and the neck outline at the back can imagined “going through the ear (so a little further back and dissecting the ear as it tapers outward (always a little curved)

Cheers, keep it up!

[summertopso2]

No practice this afternoon (must study for other thing), so I thought I could upload what I did yesterday and this morning

[summertopso2]

Two new more for today. The baby doesn't actually look like a baby, XD. May it be because proportions are different for babies? I just tried applying the same process.

UPDATE: I think I figured it out. Baby proportions seem smaller, so I took the jaw and the nose and moved them up to make them smaller and now it looks more baby-ish. I stil can't guess how to figure proportions when drawing

[summertopso2]

It's been a while! I keep practicing faces now and then, but I wanted to move onto Perspective. It's not the wall assignment, but I wanted to experiment a bit, so I took a simple scene for my 3-point perspective drawing. I don't know if I should include from now on the whole canvas with all the guide lines or not,

I'd say it's WIP, but I don't know if I'll leave it like that for now. The things around the buildings are trees that I just sketched for the purpose of establishing the boundaries of the town (this is the reference)

[snakker]

Nice, that’s a pokemon area no?
I do note though that some lines don’t seem to aim at the vanishing points, for example the windows on the building nearest to us. Or the roof on the building behind it
I do note that you appropriately used 3 point perspective which is exactly what you would need as you are depicting a line of sight that is not parallel to the ground but rather looking down at the ground

Cheers keep at it

[summertopso2]

Yeah, it's from a Pokémon game.
And you are right about some lines. You see, I first used the lines from VP when doing the buildings, and when the basic structures were done, I changed the canvas and then did the windows and roofs using the lines already available as reference. So yeah, some of them don't like very good.
I have tried a second one, a wall this time. I had some problems because I felt that I was mostly using the left VP for the wall and didn't know when to use the right VP. Again, I reduced the canvas so can't see the VP, but from now on I will share the whole picture here.

Again, the same problem of not using reference lines for smaller things. Also, I did this one with another software (Procreate) and I still can't use it very well (sometimes I draw on my iPad)

[summertopso2]

Ok, a good practice with all the guidelines
Green is for buildings, purple is for tree (not good at drawing trees)

[summertopso2]

I decided to try the 4 point assignment with the mannequin. After a while I realized I did the same mistake like the video: I had to make all lines rounder to make it look more 3D. Except the head, which I don't know how to improve it, everything else seem fine. Any tip?

[Kektet]

Hi Sara!

The 4 point mannequin assignment is very tricky. I agree that curving the lines would help to keep the roundness on the volumes of the body. As for the head, it might be beneficial to review proportions of the human body. I tried to show my thinking in some images below.

I'm not a professional, so I'm just giving advice as best I can. But as a general guide, female shoulders are usually 2 heads wide (2.5 heads for males). So if you are using the rectangle as a guide for the width of the shoulders (as in your image above), it might be useful to use it as a guide for the size of the head. Also, because of the angle from which we are viewing the head (like a fisheye lens), we are likely going to see more of the underside of the chin than the front of the face. It should kinda look like the head is tilted back some.

I did 3 drawovers of your image to try to illustrate my thinking.

First is to identify the shoulder width proportions and their centerline, then fit 2 heads within that space (1 head in the center and .5 of a head to each side for a total of 2 head witdths):

Second is to warp those guides with the curving perspective. Remember that the curvature gets more extreme the further away we are from the horizon line:

And third is to fit the body to the new proportions while trying to keep in mind that, from our point of view, we are looking up toward the underside of the head:

Again, I'm an amateur so this may not be totally correct, but this is how I would go about trying to solve the head proportion issue.

I hope this helps! Cheers!

[summertopso2]

Wow, thank you so much for such a detailed explanation! It was my first time with this and didn't pay that much attention to proportions (aside from dividing the model in 8 parts, but didn't calculate the shoulder width).

[summertopso2]

Kinda happy with this two last ones. I think I need to check head anatomy again because sometimes I forget things and it took me two tries to do the head like this (oops, I forgot I erased all the sketches)

[Pattu_w]

heyo, you're doing great, perspective can indeed be very tricky, @Kektet reply inspired me to try to explain how i tackled the 4 point assignment.

I'm gonna use the one i did as reference i hope you don't mind, but basically to do these you need to go beyond what the reference shows you, you need to have a understanding of the construction behind what you're seeing, you must think 3d, break it down to simple shapes and, depending of the point of view, these shapes will begin to overlap each other.

and it truly helps to have a reference so you can use it as a base for what you're doing, i used marc's one in my case, keep it up c:

[summertopso2]

Hi! It's been a while! Thank you both @Pattu_w and @Kektet for your tutorials. I gave it a try again. They don't look as Pattu's examples because, well, not much anamoty knowledge yet, but it kinda looks similar. This time, I paid attention to the proportions (2 and 1/3 heads for the width of the body) and tried to make the head look similar by making sure the neck is visible

[summertopso2]

Hi, a while again! This time I went through the Photoshop practice. I'm not very good with the pen tool and vectors, and Photopea wouldn't let me modify the layer without rasterizing it first. But I kinda did something that looks like a box with a title and the creature (all of them as smart objects)

[summertopso2]

Hi everybody! I know it's been so long since the last time I posted something. Believe it or not, I've been drawing, but I wasn't doing anything specific from the course so I didn't post anything XD

So I wanted to share my progress from this last month. I tried going into Term 3, but realized it was soon, so I focused a bit on doing an art study from Pokémon manga, and when Marc published the weekly schedule, I went ahead from Week 2. Here are some examples of what I've been doing in the last weeks:

This is the art study (and an original piece using that style)