ART WAR | 2D | Sun prince | Skullguzma

skullguzma 2016-12-31 13:14:02 UTC #21

I see what you mean, but I also feel that, for some reason, when cropped, it lacks depth?
Would adding more interesting features to the bottom figure that make him worth looking at be helpful to the composition?

yorieofthecastle 2016-12-31 13:28:13 UTC #22

Perhaps detailing the guy would give him purpose, but he is not the main character and shouldn't distract from him.
For depth, maybe you could add more bots in the BG and maybe some birds with some heavy atmospheric fog.

EDIT: The fog could also help with the creepy vibe!

skullguzma 2016-12-31 13:38:09 UTC #23

Going off of your suggestion, I decided to have Option B have the lightning kind of surround the bottom character, but also give the viewer an "Escape" route back up to the main character.

With Option A, I decided to lighten the values on top of of the main character if I happened to add details to the bottom character, therefore the viewer would still be drawn back to him.

Although I do think I prefer B...

yorieofthecastle 2016-12-31 13:58:18 UTC #24

Yes, but now B is very bottom heavy, and the top is very empty. I'm not too sure how this could be fixed, but I gave it a go:

I changed the form of the lightning a bit so there is more breathing room. I do think I cut it too much, adding thinner forks going off the sides will probably work very well. I moved the whole image a bit, to make the composition more diagonal, but also moved the farther bot a bit down, because the three heads made a very uncomfortable straight line. Perhaps they could be moved around a bit more. I also added a heavier cloud on the left, because it was feeling too empty, same for the bottom left. Aaand I kicked up the lights right next to (and on) the main character as well, making even the lightning darker as it goes farther away from him.

I'm still not 100% with this version, but I think it's going somewhere.

skullguzma 2017-01-01 01:35:59 UTC #25

That is much better than the first two. The top of the image does feel kind of empty.

I think I might know what to do to fix it now, but for reference, here is My original composition, Next to the "fixed composition."

I decided to define the "Ground" that the characters were standing on, and I layed out some Guidlines to put some highlights. The only thing I'm not 100% on is the moon. Anyway, I'll spend more time toying with it. I might start over with the original idea in mind.

Crayvv 2017-01-01 03:05:17 UTC #26

I know it's still a rough draft fixing the composition and thumbnail @skullguzma , but I hope you darken the bots at the back a lil bit so your character is in focus, because looking at the fixed version, I dont really know where to look first. And @yorieofthecastle version looks really good in composition and lighting, I like the cropped version more than showing the ground and full body of the character I hope this helps!

yorieofthecastle 2017-01-01 11:13:55 UTC #27

For the moon - I put it partially behind the character's hair and it's still the best option I can think of. That way you have light-dark-light (moon-hair-glasses), our eyes are naturally drawn to the areas with most contrast, which is where is advisable you put the main focus of the picture.

skullguzma 2017-01-02 02:23:05 UTC #28

You all are probably tired of me changing my mind every other second But I have decided to start from scratch with my character. He was neat, I'm still keeping the lightning, so don't worry about that, but he wasn't "WOW!" to me. I also realize that Machinery, and glowing lights and all that just isn't my strong point, and If I want to stand any chance against all the really amazing artists here, i might have to do something drastic. Will I stay a part of team Sci fi? If it's not against the rules to Switch, then.... We'll just have to see about that.
Stay tuned, because new concepts will be coming shortly!

Crayvv 2017-01-02 02:30:03 UTC #29

Ooooooh new concepts! and you could switch to fantasy in any moment But we'll see, im excited to see more concepts!

skullguzma 2017-01-02 02:34:07 UTC #30

I was really just winging it with his original idea I also realized it was kind of silly to try to compete with something i knew next to nothing about, Mech and technology are something i have never worked with until now. so hopefully the "WOW!" factor will show itself in something i'm more confident with!

Crayvv 2017-01-02 02:39:18 UTC #31

Yess thats the spirit! Go with your comfortable genre, and go with uncomfortable designs that way you learn the fastest! I'm originally a fantasy fan, but watching these space videos on youtube made me go into the sci fi side, but fantasy made me get started into digi painting! hahaha! But anyway, I'll be expecting that Wow factor

skullguzma 2017-01-02 03:23:34 UTC #32

Introducing, the very first sketch of my New character. "The Insect Queen"
I have a long way to go with her, but I'm exited to see how she will turn out!

skullguzma 2017-01-02 04:12:03 UTC #33

I said I was keeping the lightning, and then I forgot to draw it, I mainly just thought That this New design had enough already.
So
Expect more concepts! I'm just full of ideas, and the second i finish one, 12 more come to take it's place

EDIT: My tablet cord broke And my tablet's design makes getting a new one really tricky. Well, we'll see if I can still participate, in the mean time, i'll switch most of my thinking onto paper.

EDIT AGAIN!: found a cord for my tablet. Thinking back on my original concept, I'm thinking that the only thing that Wasn't really working for him was that shoulder piece. Dubbing it, the "Shoulder donut". I didn't really know how attached I was to his design until i "scrapped him." So despite how i said I was starting over with a totally new character, i think i might listen to my heart and see how I can make a truly great character out of him.

yorieofthecastle 2017-01-02 06:54:48 UTC #34

Hey, you do what you think is right! ^3^ The Insect queen looks very promising, but if you think you can improve the previous design, alright, we'll be waiting!

skullguzma 2017-01-02 11:04:35 UTC #35

Alright you guys, buckle up, i think I found a "Direction" I want to go. I really Really liked the kind of Smug expression that my Original character gave off, and I also liked the fantasy aspect of the bug queen, so I did a really quick render of a new character, I'm going to call him the "Sun Prince" I guess call me team Fantasy If I decide to stick with him

skullguzma 2017-01-02 13:33:05 UTC #36

Exploring the Sun prince, Kinda digging him so far.

yorieofthecastle 2017-01-02 14:57:57 UTC #37

Mmyeah, you've definitely got something there. The shapes are really nice and I love the attitude ^3^ Could you try some different face paints? This design is cool, but maybe you can find something even better. ~(^O^)~

CleverBoi 2017-01-02 15:24:12 UTC #38

Wow. Very brutal. The perspective is nice. And the moon gives a great mood

skullguzma 2017-01-03 03:31:41 UTC #39

Refining him a little more, I can't decide on the expression though. The Softer expression isn't as well drawn as the Smug one, but also the smug expression makes him feel a little evil. Like he's about to break into a "Villain song"

yorieofthecastle 2017-01-03 12:36:56 UTC #40

I really don't see a problem with him coming across as evil. ~(^O^)~