ART WAR | 3D | Demi-Owl Kuu | Ryutephra

Zerraze 2016-12-19 00:25:56 UTC #1

cleared old topic info

tyralegeorge 2016-12-19 00:52:29 UTC #2

I am stuck between the two. Greatly excited and glad to be about of this. This my first drawing competition so I want to see what my capabilities are.

zyp 2016-12-22 08:08:35 UTC #9

Hey,
looks cool, for the frontal ortho you got those white bits could be lost they are not needed i don't think they are both distracting and i don't know what they are his feathers?.

I have the same probs i always make things too busy.

Zerraze 2016-12-22 08:30:22 UTC #10

If your talking about the head those are feathery ears. If its the arm thing i just did a rough for like a wing/feather steel arm guard. Not sure which one you mean but ill try changing each a bit. Sorry its so vague i'm not that great at concepting yet. Thanks for the feedback im glad you like it . Yep i make things a bit busy .

Zerraze 2016-12-23 04:13:29 UTC #12

I've started pushing the sculpted anatomy and lengthening proportions from the first rough mesh although i'm still not to sure if i want regular lower arms or a more bird clawed hands as well. The head is probably going to be changed alot.

zyp 2016-12-23 14:20:41 UTC #13

Really cool okay now i see whats going on a bit better great idea to draw or overlay the concept on the model, pretty slick there. (Yea it was the arm to your question.)

I can envision her now i see what your going for and it can become great just take your time when you get to the feathers I am thinking perhaps try to get away with some sort of pinkish/peach/white bunch, or go dark at the back and light towards the front.

Nice updates its coming along a long way to go yet so you have plenty of time to play with the design if you come along any interesting artwork on the net.

Zerraze 2016-12-23 14:46:02 UTC #14

@zyp Thanks again for the suggestions. The color changes are a pretty nice idea I like your idea making them dark to light that sounds pretty cool, i might try a bit of gradient from lower body to upper as well. Im most likely going to make the feathers separate pieces because they might look too much like scales if i paint them on.

Zerraze 2016-12-23 14:52:51 UTC #15

Another quick update today fixing the head and started working on face details.

Zerraze 2016-12-24 06:37:23 UTC #16

More head and upper body stuff.

zyp 2016-12-24 13:14:35 UTC #17

Glad you like the suggestions, this is looking really good, the only thing i see is she has "duck face" going on i had that problem once also.
You can go to lowest subdivision and move the verts on the lips back more and out a bit and that should fix things, i found an img last night totally not even looking for it and it had a good reference to how the face from the side and lips would look, i'll try to find it again:
Here it is was quick to find, surprisingly

Hope that helps, also great idea on making the feathers separate, if you feel like it perhaps making about 2/4 different feather styles might make this really pop.
(I usually don't suggest it cause it is a lot of work and some people get over whelmed) but good on you for taking that initiative.
Amazing art is made with time put in.

Zerraze 2016-12-25 03:04:18 UTC #18

I have a fairly low mesh so i've been going back and forth between levels. Thanks for pointing out the face plane reference. If anything i'm going to sculpt the feathers and make the more exposed ones geometry and then bend images planes/hair cards for the ones closer to the body like around the hair.

Zerraze 2016-12-25 03:07:16 UTC #19

Fixed the hands into a more anatomical shape as well as sculpted the feet. Going to go into marvelous designer and test out creating the first layer of clothes before i go too crazy with making the feathers.

Zerraze 2016-12-25 15:03:26 UTC #20

Ended up using the topology tools in zbrush instead of marvelous designer for now because MD doesn't play too well with the rigged file types from maya 2016 or 17. Updated more anatomy on Kuu. Created the bases for the underclothes and then started making Luku's base by referencing owl anatomy and wing structure. Still thinking of ways to alter his body and features quite a bit and i may do a 2D concept.

Zerraze 2016-12-26 11:36:50 UTC #21

Still adding armor layers. Not sure if i'm going to change tail length, and experimenting with weapon placement ideas and concepts.

Zerraze 2016-12-27 09:09:32 UTC #22

I think I've finally gotten the armor colors down yay!. Did a bit of a paintover to flesh out the base pieces i have and improve on the first concept.

Zerraze 2016-12-28 11:30:08 UTC #23

More armor building.

Zerraze 2016-12-29 10:16:04 UTC #25

Got the armor base pieces done for the most part. I might change some of the weapon blockout placement to make it more asymmetrical, change length ect. Im still tossing the idea of making a sheath/weapon across the center of the back that luku uses and pulls off of Kuu. I might re-paintover the helmet not 100% on the current design for it

Zerraze 2017-01-01 14:47:09 UTC #28

Changed proportions, more sewing, Adjusted faulds so her hands wouldn't collide with hilts when moving. Arm straps added ect..

Zerraze 2017-01-02 10:01:31 UTC #29

Some head and Hair stuff. Sill might push the anatomy around more as i go.

zyp 2017-01-02 12:40:44 UTC #30

... Not going to lie pretty scared of that face the eyes are very creepy idk if that is what you where going for it being war and all. But she scared me.

Give it time it is an animated GIF.

Made some adjustments for you to review over and figure out what would work best for your design.

I adjusted the lips, iris's (bigger) smoothed the curve of the nose bridge, rounded off the nose front (see this reference)
Widened the lip corner openings to the start of the curve of the iris's added a bit more bottom and top lip action, smoothed / rounded the pinching or dimples out. (erased in other words) For the eye details, i erased the dark lines and replaced it with a red orange outline fading inwards, which i think might be better.

Don't really know what to do about the exaggerated eye lashes, i suppose if you made them a neutral white in the texture they won't get in the way too much. (Your call there or someone can come help also.)

Hope these help and man you've done a lot of nice updates the armors and leathers are working out surprisingly well i thought it was busy looking at first but to my eyes anyway they are not so busy.