Took me sometime to update here cuz i was working all day, but here it is the female and male proportions part of the class, that opened my brain in some proportions parts that i really liked, but still a lot of room for improvement !

HEEEEEELP :laughing: !!!!
My god, this part of drawing a reference with the proportions right and fitting in the same place is giving me some work!
I haven't figured out a way of marking the landmarks of the reference body in an accurate way, and the way Marc show his explanation is super fast due to his skill, i saw that part of the class like 20 times already but my first attempt was kinda off.
Like this thing of holding the stylus head to measure distances is not working for me in the digital area, and on his videos he used that measurement inside the canvas, almost like a digital ruler ( which if I were to do that sounded like cheating cuz i could measure straight from the body in that case ).
I find that doing the vertical line of the total height and the horizontal line of the total width and doing the box helps a lot, but its still hard to pin point the important landmarks like elbows, hands, knees, sholders e etc... with only the square.
Well here is my first attempt :sob:

And here is with the line ''art'' on top of the reference

My extreme landmarks are kinda ok like the feets and the hands but when i try to drawn from the eyeballing I loose track, as you can see.
Look at that elbow x) jesus !

Anyone have any tips for this exercise please :sweat_smile: !

here is another work in progress, but i havent figured out a way of measuring the distance correctly, using my thumb or stylus on the screen and then moving into it to draw doesn't seem intuitive idk....

any help is super appreciated here !!!!

not sure what your setup is, but ideally for that process you wouldn't want to move (at least not your head because it will throw off your sense of distance). its supposed to be used when a painter has the canvas propped up in front of them. with the reference to the of the canvas so that they don't have to continuously move around. You might also be struggling if your doing this with a drawing tablet instead of a display tablet because your hand eye coordination might be thrown off. at least that's how it feels when i use a drawing tablet.

I use that method to get the distance between joints, worrying less about the shape and more about the distance. after i have the proportions and spacing correct, i start to look the actual shapes. this doesn't work for architecture however for anatomy is seems to do the trick for me. hope this helps.

Thanks for the reply! My setup is a display tablet.
The thing is, i am really used to drawn really close to the screen, so in order for me to extend my arm the way it shows on the class i have to distance myself from the screen and hold my arm against my ear so i don't mess with the distance and measure, but then when I go to the display tablet i am far away from it because of my arm so when it comes to mark the measurements i took of the reference in the digital canvas I lose track of what I have marked when I get close to draw. It's feeling really weird and non intuitive doing that idk 😥.
Even doing the square sometimes to fit the silhouette is kinda tricky with this straight arm method. I feel like I am doing something wrong...

gotcha. while it was used with a straight arm, its not ideal when doing digital art. as long as you maintain a constant position from your drawing tablet and your reference it should work. Just remember to not zoom in and out of the digital canvas as well. as this will mess up the scale of your proportions.

maybe this will help as well.

hey man that video actually helped a lot !!!!!
Big thanks :smile: !!!
So i think i got better a hang of this measurement technique, but still i need a lot of practice, which is kinda hard working full time as a chef :sweat_smile: but i will get there, so i can advance !!

Here is the outline of my second attempt.

I looked nicer than the other one but when i put it on top of the reference i still go crazy as you can see here

I am most likely doing something wrong with the measurements technique, I am now trying to use a separate pencil to measure cuz the stylus is so fat and curvy x).

I was thinking of going to sleep cuz i have to open the restaurant tomorrow but i needed to try another one!!!!
and i think i am starting to understand more about looking at landmarks and use the distance between them to locate yourself better, and i am currently using a pencil on top of my display tablet to measure the distances, i think that is really helping me, and as @HANDRO said do not change the zoom distance !!!!
here is the beginning of my 3rd try

edit: also looking at negative spaces really helps as well and doing the outlines.

You got it, regarding the accuracy of the outline, it gets better with time. the more you do it the easier it gets. glad i was able to help.

finished here the outline now that i got from work !!!
I am pretty happy with the results, i tried to give him some details but i still not sure how to add shades e shapes when i tried to start his left feet, and still getting used to change the brush sizes as well maybe that is too advanced for me now x).
The head is a lil bit off but i will still practice this more.

But yeah here is the results, i think i am going to advance for the figure drawing part which sounds fun.

okaaaay, gesture drawing :smile: !!!!
that was fun, it was kinda of therapeutic being kinda loose after the last exercise :sweat_smile:
well here it is the ones that i had 30 seconds to drawn.

and here it is the 60 seconds one .

I know its kinda hard to say something about this type of exercise, but i can say this, sometimes i did some shapes that was like ''wow that turned out better that i expected'' but i discovered that when a body is upside down i kinda ''bug'' to where should i start drawing :joy: there is one in my 60 second one that its just like wtf happened there hahahahahah :joy:

Know the feeling, it gets better! :smile:

Been there, done that! hahahaha as @Julia_J said, it gets better. Just need to put in the work.

And reading your thread here, I really felt your pain on the "reference drawing" part, because I struggled SO MUCH with that, too. What worked for me, in the end, was to find out key markers in the body after limiting the height of the figure (top of the head and feet). I'm talking about knees, elbows, tips of the shoulder (where the colar bone meet the humerus). And I would start finding those out from the chin. After that, it was all basic shapes.

oh yeah it was a big wtf for me to understand how to spot the key markers and use them properly, i visited your post and your journey helped me a lot as well !!!
btw obrigado pela resposta, seu nome me diz que você é brasileiro* :grin: ( thanks for your reply, your name tells me that you are Brazilian*)

ohhh this perpective room assigment is fun and super challenging in the beginning !!!
I had the brilliant idea to start with an idea of my own and not to follow Marc's room exemple... boooy oh boy whatever you do dont do stairs on perspective x) hahahahahhaha, just kidding but they took me a good amount of time and effort to do, its a lot of perspectives lines that i need to trace in the VP to make it right !
I had this idea of doing like a loft room, cuz i really like that style and wish to live in one x)!
its still in development but i quite like it.

Looking forward to see your progress with it :smile:

Let us know if you need any help or feedback!

So i did some progress on my perspective piece.
I have decided to add a balcony in the floor and on the second level as well, and i started to add a little bit of details.
I stopped when i tried to add some bar chairs to the open kitchen bench cuz it was kinda difficult to do them on perspective, and i am going to try to improve the couch as well.

I saw 2 first videos on second term of the classes, but I feel i still need stronger body proportions to advance to anatomy, i will try to do as Marc says about drawing shapes and deforming them like the example in the beginning of the anatomy class.
But i did a second try (by head this time) on the male and female proportions .

Any feedback is always welcome :grin:

Okay i need help.
I realized that I struggle a lot with the shape manipulation of the simple objects in the sense of turning and twisting them from imagination, like Marc shows in the beginning of the first anatomy class, and since he said it was a prerequisite to be good at doing this if you want to continue I feel like I need to improve a lot in that area.
I was trying to do some cubes twisting and it went quite ok, but the cylinders are the ones that i struggle the most when it comes to drawn them twisted and turning and make them feel 3D.
You guys have any good exercises that would help improve that sense of 3D shapes ???

Here is me trying to pick a reference and just try to do a quick sketch braking him in the most simple shapes. and it feels weird idk

Thanks Dangras, it helped me :smile: !
I was doing a lot of shape manipulation as well during some of my free time to help me get better at this part, i did some practice as well back to basics, some over the reference some just looking at them.

I think maybe i should press on to the classes and see how it goes x)

11 months later

Was kinda absent here due to going back working full time as a chef but i am going to try my best to find time to practice more and more, so i did!
I used the Line of Action site do some gesture drawing so i did the class section of 30 minutes with 10 of 30 sec, 5 with 1 minute, 2 with 5 minutes and 1 with 10 minutes.

I really liked how the 10 minute finished out for my level x)

6 months later

Hello folks, testing the waters on the anatomy class here, still haven't found a brush that i am comfortable at shading but i am getting there, gotta memorize those landmarks now, next is mouth and eyes...

26 days later

Okay slowly but surely getting there ....
I find it still kinda hard the shading part specially choosing which brush to use, i am now in between Marcs legendary cube brush and the soft textured round brush on his started brush pack.
I am not super happy with the front face result, the ears became too small and i was lazy to fix it x) but so far so good from what i can do.
Any feedback is welcome :grin: