HANDRO - Art Journey

HANDRO 2021-04-30 20:29:51 UTC #81

So I decided to give line art another chance. I was not happy with the overall look of my last attempt. I think its because I was trying to make the building be simple and practical as possible. (I think this comes from my architecture background) also my scale was way off.

Anyways for this attempt I adopted a different approach. a "architecture sketch" type of style - where I'm not worried about how clean the lines are. I believe (I hope I get this right because if not I'm a terrible architecture student) its meant to depict the forms and materials of a building instead. I also attempted it because I felt that I should learn how to do this seeing as how this is my background.

Anyways i had fun. getting more used to landscape and buildings.

Julia_J 2021-05-02 13:38:24 UTC #82

This reminds me of urban sketching with watercolours Love it

HANDRO 2021-05-04 18:56:46 UTC #83

Okay so this week. I'm tackling something more complex. not sure what style i actually want to use - I'm hoping to incorporate a bit of line art and painting style into this but we'll see how it goes. anyways below is the piece I'm drawing. spent yesterday getting the scale and and color in place. Let me know if you notice anything really off.

HANDRO 2021-05-10 23:01:35 UTC #84

Okay so its been quiet here for the past week, hadn't accomplished anything work posting. I Continued to work on this piece however the colors were giving me trouble. I posted this on the Furnace board in Discord channel and got some feedback. Mainly with regards to coloring.

I was adjusting the colors for the most of last week however I still felt something was off (the perspective was off). So I start over with this piece to get a foundation to add color onto. with similar approach to the landscape piece i did prior. its a bit more time consuming but i want to make sure its right. Below is what i have so far, with the previous attempt faded for comparison.

Also, just because i want to continue completing something each week I worked on this Portrait Study.

HANDRO 2021-05-16 12:30:50 UTC #85

Another Busy week, Still making progress on this landscape painting. Let me know what you think. Also worked on a Emote as a side piece just to continue consistently finishing a drawing weekly.

LesleyCarol 2021-05-16 14:19:11 UTC #86

I really love the colors and lighting you used with the castle! It looks sturdy and majestic.
I critique I have though is with the perspective. It seems like the lines and curves especially were a little more accurate in the previous version because they were flatter.
Also, it might help to do a one or two point perspective exercise that focuses on using a grid and overlapping forms. Similar to this:

I did one similar to what you have for the castle

This way you can practice putting forms next too each other without them feeling scrunched or flat. Hope this helps!

HANDRO 2021-05-16 16:38:25 UTC #87

Hey @LesleyCarol, is there a specific area where you see it stand out really bad? would you mind pointing it out? as it would help me understand exactly what you mean.

Also regarding the previous iteration, one of the problem I was encountering was that the scale and positioning was really off. So I adjusted it to better match the reference photo. (below). I know its not 100% correct but I wanted to try @Vonschlippe previous advise about 3 point perspective in a landscape view. Basically (correct me if I'm wrong Von) 2 Point perspective works better than 3 point.

LesleyCarol 2021-05-16 23:33:50 UTC #88

This reference is a doozy
I don't know if the photographer decided to skew the left edge to make it more interesting or if that side of the building it actually turned...Either way that side goes to a different vanishing point.

I agree that 2-D works out better for landscapes and I feel like you captured that well previously. Since the reference is so complex and particular, I think your first attempt works out better because it follows the system you created and looks more sturdy.
If you wanted to go by the reference, I would study the reference more and draw on top of it to understand what's going on. Especially one like this where there are a lot of parts to it and it doesn't follow the rules of 2-point perspective.

Below I compared the converging lines in the image to the ones in the latest drawing. The right half looks nice and pretty accurate. Like I mentioned earlier, the left side is skewed a little in the ref so you'd have to be careful there.

I painted over the rounded structure to show what I meant. I think the curve on the top was a little too extreme so I flattened it a little. Also, the ridges seemed thin and a too close to the structure behind it so I added side planes and made the left edge align with the side of the castle. Lastly, the values were too light on the right so I darkened them. I think the combination of these things can help it look more 3-D.

Hope this helps! It looks like you put a lot of work into this so I wanted to be thorough and help as much as I could.

HANDRO 2021-05-17 10:25:56 UTC #89

thank you so much for taking the time to Red line it.

The reference was difficult to figure out, I wanted to see how accurate I could be without overlapping the images regarding the reference - I wasn't even sure the Image ratio was the same (I adjusted it multiple times). Just wanted to point this out because originally I was worried about the angles more in the original attempt, however I was getting too tunnel visioned to focus on anything else. When i adjusted the ratio as well, it threw the angles off.

So I decided to restart the piece from scratch to reset my view on it. I definitely see what you mean about the angles though. At this point I'm going to continue with the angles I have - and try to correct the angles towards the end. I think it'll make for good practice with adjustments on final pieces for me.

Regarding the round structure, what I have posted is currently a work in progress, I did notice it however, I attempted to correct it, ill be sure to compare your correction with mine to see if we had the same idea in mind. If your curious, Ill post something before I make any further adjustments to the rounded structure.

LesleyCarol 2021-05-17 21:43:17 UTC #90

Yeah I'd love to see the correction if you want to share it!
If anything this is good practice. I think it took me a good 30-40 minutes to understand what was going on and try to give some feedback. I learned a lot myself and it's not even my project lol.
Can't wait to see the finished piece!

HANDRO 2021-05-18 22:13:26 UTC #91

Okay so here's what i have so far. I think i like the way you corrected the structure a bit more than I like mine. I have yet to implement your corrections yet, just adjusted the image to correct what i felt was off.

LesleyCarol 2021-05-19 01:47:21 UTC #92

This is coming together nicely! I think your going in the right direction and I feel with what I mentioned earlier will give it a little boost Really excited for this piece!

HANDRO 2021-05-24 19:18:39 UTC #93

Okay, So here's the final image (for now) I finished this for the most part on Friday but held on to check it over the weekend for final adjustments - some Discord Feedback made me adjust to color temperature. The only thing I wasn't able to accomplish was to adjust the Perspective - While I still want to attempt to make adjustments I will hold off mainly because I want to start the next thing (more than one to be honest). Let me know what you think.

Hey @Vonschlippe, I forgot to ask about the water. (oops) How did it turn out?

LesleyCarol 2021-05-24 23:17:01 UTC #94

This turned out lovely! The color adjustment was a huge improvement since this hue of blue makes the orange pop more. Once you learn more about value and perspective you'll make even more gorgeous pictures. Looking forward to more.

Julia_J 2021-05-25 05:51:53 UTC #95

Uh, the foreground makes a huge difference! Well done! Looking forward to the next one... more than one

mau.wamp 2021-05-25 12:05:15 UTC #96

Good job, HANDRO!
It looks super clean and the stony texture of the walls and pillars are really cool!

Frygidal 2021-05-26 13:00:07 UTC #97

Nice job man! Perspective looks solid and I love how you did foliage! Maybe add some atmospheric perspective tho? It would add a lot of depth I think!

alrooke64 2021-05-26 13:07:52 UTC #98

Handro, your castle drawing is great. I would maybe try to draw through your forms if you get stuck at all with believable space. As for perspective, in this view the camera isnt actually pointing up that much... a cool trick is if the tilt is less than 15 degrees up or down you can get away with just drawing it in two point. If you really need that slight imposing verticality you can always skew/ distort transform your work once its finished to get that vertical diminishment (I did this on my byzantine building study).

HANDRO 2021-05-26 14:23:24 UTC #99

Thanks @Frygidal I honestly didn't even think about atmospheric perspective. the colors were giving me trouble from the beginning so I spent my time trying to color match the reference. Something I definitely have to improve.

@alrooke64 what forms are you referring to exactly? the foliage? while I do agree with you the reason i decided to go the route I did was because I was experimenting with different brushes to see what worked best for textures and and simplicity (none that I am satisfied with so far). I want to develop a look that can appear conceptual (simple and clean) for the landscape paintings. Also while I could have spent time on it, I think it would have been a waste because the focus was on the castle in the background.

Regarding Perspective, my original goal was to see if I could simplify the 3 point perspective of the reference and convert it to to 2 point (for the castle). So I decided to ignore the vertical perspective of the piece and see what came out. My initial results were bad but I made some adjustments and this was the result. I think its a bit more complicated for this piece because of the way I approached it the stone bridge had a different perspective than the castle. Because of this I would have to break the painting up into different parts and adjust the perspectives for each area separately in order to better match the reference. So I kind of shot myself in the foot for that part. While I still want to do it to see if I can correct the perspective issue I have no will to do so yet.

Hopefully all that makes sense. sorry this ended up being a longer reply than I expected.

HANDRO 2021-05-31 13:49:25 UTC #100

So this week past week I started a piece (had this idea in my head from a while ago) but I felt unmotivated to continue at the moment. below you can see it

Aside from that I just worked on a few thing anatomy figures and some other random stuff, My mind kept bouncing from project to project. Ultimately felt unmotivated to make any real progress. but figured I would post what I did work on.