I wanted to do some breakdowns of bodies with perspective in mind. It's always pretty frustrating to me that whenever I use references, I don't really understand what's going on in the picture. Eventually, I'll end up copying it instead of understanding what's going.
Usually, after such drawings, I'll feel pretty empty

My impatience also makes my drawings much worse, it leads me to rush which kind of leads to bad drawing habits? Like drawing without a clear goal or purpose and all the skills you end up learning becomes just flat, dead lines.

This happens to me so much and I've always felt bad afterward. It made my future practices worse even if I've drawn more. The drawings were rushed and I never take the time to process my drawings.

Ugh, it kinda sucks to think that these problems are something you set for yourself without realizing. I guess writing in forums like this help you reflect more and hopefully make the problems you have more tangible and fixable

Never give up, keep going

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Some leg flow practices. Trying to get the essence the pose down more.

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More legs. Trying to think about how I can represent curves better. I think taking note of where the knees are, hip tilt, and foot placement has helped me draw them better. It's better to start with that than with an empty brain.

HI Shellac!

Thanks so much! I know right. I got it from looking at Nesskain works. His people drawings are always so solid and the main reason for that I think is he always uses perspective grids in most of his drawings. I wish to draw people like him too someday

Hahaha about gesture drawing, I think the main contributor to my impatience was that I only did one kind of practice for a very long time. During that period, my knowledge about art was pretty limited so I didn't know any better about what it was for. I thought it was a one-trick pony to improve my art skills ACK so I only did that all the time ( I think what's worse is I mostly did 30s-2mins Gesture drawings, rarely 10 mins ).

It affected how I treated my drawing studies, I would just draw in rapid succession without looking too deeply on my problems and then just kept moving on. I think for studies, they really have to be broken down and fixed before continuing on, or those issues will just keep recurring again I only have to experience this frustration for a couple of years before I'm finally fed up enough to do something about it lol.

Yep, sorry about my rant and thanks so much again! You too! I hope your art school goes well!

I think I'm understanding heads a lot more now! I really have made a lot of progress once I switched up how I practiced. I don't even know why it didn't come to me from the beginning to practice this way ugh. I guess it got to do with it being a lot like " studying " instead of what drawing meant to me which is something that is supposed to be free and easygoing. So whenever I practiced drawing, I would just sketch instead of breaking it down every step of the way. Never using enough brains and making enough logical deductions.
I think another reason why I didn't like to do this was I considered it/ felt it was cheating which was so so stupid. I think it got to do with the feeling that it felt like copying instead of something that comes from you but I now realized that art comes directly from what you observe and you should do whatever you can to understand the things you are seeing. I think right now we're really blessed to have photoshop and all these art tools, it really makes learning art easier.

Observe, breakdown, test yourself without seeing and rinse and repeat. I think I'll continue learning this way

These are some painting practices I did. I did some head plane practices base on head references before the painting though, https://www.artstation.com/artwork/GX3Ax1. I tried to get a lot of different angles ( Above HL, AT HL, Bottom HL ) so I can understand the relationships of the different face features better and just practice from there.

Once I practiced that, I decided to test my understanding by drawing from photographs and that made me realize I don't really understand where the eyes, nose, and lips lay on the face once the perspective gets more complicated.

Like I get the overall picture right but the face is so off. The main issue was that I treated it very flat and I didn't adjust it to the tilt of the head AUgh. I'll work more on that more sigh.

For painting, I'm really happy with the progress I made so far. I felt like I understood more about it now once I have broken the picture into planes. It made understanding how light hits on the surface easier and more manageable. Another point I'd like to make is that it's best to treat your painting every step of the way, makes it more manageable. I used to paint straightaway without many guidelines and that was so difficult and time-consuming. It made me backtrack a lot and "feel" my way through the painting, instead of basing my painting on my understanding, you'll naturally just end up copying in the end and I believe you won't learn much like that in the end I feel.

I used art from https://twitter.com/mamongmay, and just bought https://cubebrush.co/naranbaatarcg?order_by=popular stuff ( I'm really excited to learn from this ). References are all NCT really like their aesthetics . Looking at their stuff really helped me understand a lot more now.

Future stuff I'd like to practice more on,
- Heads in perspective/ alignment
- Hair Parts
- Greyscale and Lighting Transitions
- Eyes/ Nose forms
- Brushes/ Blending/ Textures

Some head studies from references. I tried to gauge the proportions but I'm always off unless I spend a lot of time tweaking. Also, been doing a lot of drawabox lately. My drawings are less misaligned and I'm happy about that :"D Less frustration for me.

I also did some random sketches of my OC. He's still a bit bare right now. I will need to do more research and concept sketches for him. My proportions for him is also whack sigh. I need to put in more effort to be consistent.

My part-time job is in a rush-hour period so I've been more tired than usual but I still have energy to draw surprisingly. I wanted to put my head drawing skills to the test after studying heads for awhile. I think I'm more familiar with head proportions now. It's easier to draw than it was for me a few months ago But I guess being consistent is still a big weakness for me. The heads I drew are kinda consistent but not consistent enough. Might be because I'm still unsure on how to draw for certain things.

I'll continue practicing the other stuff. Run run run

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I was tired of doing studies and decided to doodle and sketch something. It's really been a long time since I doodled something that turned out the way I liked. Instead, of doing hair I normally sketched, I tried to be more creative with my hair shapes, and made it have that gentle but haggard look.

Even though I sketched finished, I think it will be a waste not to do some cool effects for it. It turned out to be spiders webs and a ghostly effect HAHAHAHAHA. It's nice to mess around sometimes and not worry so much about the process.

I will try to do this more often

@MattD Thanks! I'm glad I manage to get the feeling there

Another Painting Study, but this time I didn't really spend so much time trying to eyeball the colours but kinda gauge and estimate based on the knowledge I've gotten from breaking down colours. It turns out it WORKS REALLY WELL. I barely had to change anything from the palette I did beforehand.
I guess limiting your colour choice and KEEPING IN MIND OF YOUR value changes are really important T-T I didn't know this before and would just whack any random colour of the colour wheel depending on how I felt like it.
Now, my new issue is my brushstrokes and cleanliness. I think I'm having issues rendering forms too. T-T There's so many things I want to work on but gotta remind myself to take things one step at a time and to learn it well.

Learning about head forms definitely made it easier for me to paint the head too. Just understanding the planes from the Asaro head will do WONDERS. I'd just wish I've implemented the stuff I learned from other sources more often. Before I will just eye power a lot of things and that made things so much more difficult for me.

Hi @Shellac-Belly!

Oh yeah I do have some and thanks!
Nah it's just a lot of trial and error and observing how other artists do it. My paintings were really muddy too :') The biggest reason why my paintings were muddy was that I wasn't conscious/aware of my colour choices enough? :'D

But now that I'm taking my art studies more seriously, the information I got from watching art vids is starting to click in my head lol :'D. Wished I wasn't just lazy and start implementing those tips more.

Haha about the tips actually my friend just asked me about that too . If you don't mind I'll just post what I've just said to him below

Aye thanks man! Yeah sure. I think colour picking alot of like artists works. You will start to see that their colours are not random but have a certain pattern in them. So I believe that they do know how to sequence their colours in some way. You can see in some speedpaints they will have colour palettes in photoshop open and for some artists, they will say how they pick colours and it's through a certain order in the photoshop colour wheel. So it's all very technical, you just have to compare the value and saturation numbers in photoshop, and you will notice how the colour patterns. This might not be for all artworks. I haven't compared enough HAHAHA

But my values still need work. You still have to eyeball and adjust for the prepicked colours cause you might have picked wrongly, so if you have to make certain colours lighter or darker or saturated just do it. 🤔 It just helps you so you won't stray too far from the set values and colour theme yeah.

End of convo.

I think I have examples in my above paintings. You can see that I wrote out the colour values and saturations of the colours I colour picked so you can try doing that too! Just have to keep trying to breakdown other artists works enough so you can see how it works. I never really did this because I wanted to be " original " but yeah just do it! Like that quote: You have to know the rules before you can break them :''')

Here's some videos too that I think will help with painting and some other tips I got:
- Knowing how light works on objects, the terminator, highlights
- Notice Value Changes/ transitions in light and dark. Here's a video where I got of that
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nuhd2TgAlPY&list=PLwbkBfXxH3HCu0wR_K3ncvb0ks4qwV9d3&index=14&t=0s. I think this is most important after you have established the basic lights and shadow areas of your painting. This is where your painting will really pop I feel. I think, in the beginning, I never took notice of this but in lights and shadows there are also differences in them. Like in shadows, there're terminators/ bounced light etc. and these will affect the values in the shadows and light have its own thing too. You can see it happening in these sphere

A phrase that helped me understand this well is the darkest light cannot be as dark as the lightest dark. Somewhere along those lines.
If you implement these it will help add more depth to your painting!
- Soft and Hard edges for lights and shadows *
- Knowing your the object your painting forms and PLANES* ARE IMPT. Like from the Asaro's head, I think that was a key part in helping me paint better. It helps you how to separate the value groups of the head easier
- Simplify Shadows and light in shapes and know where the light is hitting
- Brushes and your strokes are important! Test your brushes and make sure it gives you the results you want. I know there's a lot of videos out there that says it is not ABOUT THE BRUSH and I can tell you I think I spent so long painting and having a hard time getting the values that I wanted JUST CAUSE I STUCK WITH THE DEFAULT BRUSHES. It's really about the BRUSH so yeah just make sure your brushes settings work for you :'D.
-Paint in the contours of the object. If you have sloppy strokes, it will show.
-Paint Step by Step, don't jump to painting details too quickly. - I fall victim to this so much in the beginning and I still do sigh. Always try to fix the main problems like proportion, light and shadows etc.
- Limit Palette, decide the value range of your painting and what colours are needed before you paint. - The thing I realise if you were to pick paints as you go, you won't keep track of the colours are using and eventually, things will start going muddy. I think this helps minimise that the most! You will have an easier time trying other colours once you have the palette working.

Other tips:
There's a video where it says to have a good painting you just have to have 5 steps of values. I guess it's true from what I've gotten
-If you're using photoshop, I think one useful trick I learnt you can do to see your painting in grey value in realtime is to go Window> Arrange> New window. It will duplicate an identical canvas as the one you're working on. The useful thing about this is it keeps the settings in each canvas separate so you can go View> Proof Colours> Custom> Select Grey Dot 20% to see things in greyscale and just pop the window out and downscale it so you can see the greyscale of your painting.
-Try your best to replicate someone's painting you admire to the best of your ability/ photography. I think this helped me the most when I was starting to paint because it really forces you to think about how to prepare your painting so you can get the end result but it will take a long long time though. I spent almost 24 hrs on a painting.

or you can just get Naranbaatar head tutorials, I think he covers some concepts I stated above really well and you can see how it all comes together! It's really good not only for painting but for construction too which is important too if you want to paint well. You can also learn how to organise your drawing process more T u T.

Sorry if everything is all over the place, I just like to ramble without organising my thoughts well haha. I will try and organise better next time, I hope it is still helpful in some way :'D

I did another painting study from the same ref as the previous painting study I did. I really like the colours they used in the video so I wanted to paint it once more. The head in this reference was a lot more difficult so I guess I have to practice drawing heads in more complex angles more T - T

I'm happy with how the colours turned out but I really wanted to capture the same feel as the previous study for the skin but I wasn't able to do it :''D I thought the skin in that one looked pretty cool but I guess this has its own vibe too.

Here's the process: