Patricia - Art School Journey

[daceronine]

I think it looks much better now! I haven't played FF7 Crisis Core, so wasn't familiar with him. I should check the game out at some point.

[gregorya]

Nice work on the painting. It looks a little darker now.

[patrycja.lerch]

Thank you @mitsuki-youko, @daceronine and @gregorya!

I haven't played FF7 Crisis Core, so wasn't familiar with him. I should check the game out at some point.

Its very fun game and I loved it

its really cool how you cam make it look like its on paper even tho its digital art. I like the textures you used!

Glad you like it!

Most brushes i use are here I think. I have lots of them and lost track
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I did a thing. It came out much different than I imagined but Its so different from my style so I won't complain I am just not used to this. I redid the face so many times and I still like the sketch one better. Probably messed up face proportions. I wanted to do it more linearty and less painterly but its just easier for me to paint. I learned few things and had fun with it so its good. And hands came out really nice

I am going to leave it I keep fixing it every 5 minutes because its not what I wanted. I can't focus on anything else

Character is Fennec, foxboy from my comic

Off to a completely different mood
Cheng Xiaoshi from Link Click

Have a good day!

[mitsuki-youko]

omg Fennec is so cute XD

almost reminds me - color wise - of Boris from Alice in the Country of Hearts

https://wonderworld.fandom.com/wiki/Boris_Airay

[daceronine]

Very different from your usual work! Looks really nice. All those effects really give it a ver unique vibe, with a nice colors for the terminators and the tones in some shadows. I feel the biggest change from the sketch that gives it a different vibe are mainly the eyebrows and mouth/tooth shape, mostly the eyebrows though, I think they got a bit lost under the hair.

Cheng looks intriguing.

[uggievang]

Wow thats an art style change I really love the colors on the lighting

[patrycja.lerch]

Thank you @mitsuki-youko, @daceronine and @uggievang!

Glad you like it! I had fun with it and its nice to try something else. Maybe will try doing another one in similar style. I just feel like experimenting and trying different things right now

almost reminds me - color wise - of Boris from Alice in the Country of Hearts

Cheshire cat?! I already like him

I feel the biggest change from the sketch that gives it a different vibe are mainly the eyebrows and mouth/tooth shape, mostly the eyebrows though, I think they got a bit lost under the hair.

I was going for more anime look at first but the more simple something is the more I struggle with it. I tried bringing back the mouth shape but it seemed off. Same for eyebrows I had then more defined but it looked weird.

[gregorya]

I like the cat boy. It's adorable. I like the colors.
I like the dark atmosphere of Cheng Xiaoshi from Link Click. I've never heard of it that series. Is it good?
Alice in the Country of Hearts sounds familiar. is it good as well?

[patrycja.lerch]

Thank you @gregorya!

I like the dark atmosphere of Cheng Xiaoshi from Link Click. I've never heard of it that series. Is it good?

I just watched first season and I really like it. I heard opening and decided to check it out

I started thinking which is bad so I will take a look at it tomorrow. I just feel it lacks something but can't tell what. Probably just me overthinking

I wanted to go for less painterly look and more for the style of that show. I used less textures and relied on hard brush with lower opacity. Later decided to add lineart on top. It isn't that visible since the lines are very thin but I think it adds to it

Have a good day!

[daceronine]

Oof it looks great! Your edges are looking more and more defined, and combined with your brushwork it really works really well!

[mitsuki-youko]

the way u color is so pretty!

[gregorya]

I like the progress so far, especially the jacket and the foreshortening of the ropes.

I just watched the first season and I like it. I heard the opening and decided to check it out

I think I've heard of this series. I saw a fight scene of it in season 2 a few months ago here.

[patrycja.lerch]

Thank you very much @daceronine, @mitsuki-youko and @gregorya!

The best way to learn making comics is by making them. So I will start making some short few pages comics. And you can practice pretty much everything while working on it.

Well I do have a whole script for a random unrelated to my main comic story I could use. But I don't know if I want to commit to it yet. Even if it is for practice

I drafted some panels starring Cal, Rai and Eve. I am stressing too much about it. I redrew it like a hundred times but I won't get far with that mindset. Stop thinking and just do it

Don't mind me, its very silly and dialogues are even more silly. Since the story is leaning towards dark fantasy I can give them a nice time

I hope everything is readable. I need to share it before I back off...
I marked Rai's hair with black in case its hard to tell

I used mangas as reference and I confused myself so much. Constantly messing up reading order

Princess is cat. I didn't plan to add her but people love cats and I want to draw her

Eve is ready to meet Mr. Albert and is searching for boys. they are still in the bathroom
Cal feels the need to explain themselves to Eve. Rai doesn't care about her presence till she calls them out for looking 'good'. What can I say they are 2 pretty boys they can't look good

Eve isn't the type to shout but she has menancing aura while she is mad.

Need to do some small changes, make design for Eve and can start inking. Probably will do 'shining pretty boys' page as 2 to give them more room and well fanservice; dialogue here needs some work too.

Nothing was as hard as making dialogues. Ye I did a lot of changes, what panels should I keep what add but speaking... that's the worst. It sounds ridiculous as I read it now. But hopefully I will learn as I make it. Ignore the grammar will fix it

Once I am done with this there will be part 2 where they meet Mr. Albert

Have a good day!

[mitsuki-youko]

looks good so far for practice

I used mangas as reference and I confused myself so much. Constantly messing up reading order

how so? as in you can't decide if you want right to left (the Manga way) or left to right (western comics)?

Well I do have a whole script for a random unrelated to my main comic story I could use. But I don't know if I want to commit to it yet. Even if it is for practice

Totally get that! I've had some mini comics i wanted to fully color, got lazy and left it at sketch XD

I should totally finish em tho xD even tho my art will get better and i'll have to redraw it again when i make the comic. and this laziness of not wanting to have to redraw later is what is blocking me from really finishing the mini comic xD

[daceronine]

Heyo! You know this is my favorite topic xD.
Awesome work, It was really fun to see and read!

I'd like to give some feedback, but I don't want to just get carried away(I realize if I just go ham it could get quite wordy and overbearing, and I do think it's important to let the artist cook), so just a few points that jump to mind:

1) I'm not as familiar with the charactrs, so while it was clear what Eve was doing in pg1 and 2, I started to get lost in the flows with pages 3 and onwards. Looking back, I missed your note that Rai's hair was black, and didn't realize Cal was a separate character at first (I thought it was Eve holding the cat... somehow, and got really confused). Upon a few quick rereads it all made sense. I think it would be good to add a few more characteristics to make it clear on who is who, maybe also some bubbles with tails to take them into account in the composition and dialogue flow.

2) Not sure what "8th" is...?

3) I like the tempo and flow, some pages could probably be compressed, but I personally tend to compress too much at times. Still, I think you could probably cut the number of pages by rearranging things slightly (which means less work for you). Pages 3 and 4 for example could probably be summed up in a single page, as well as 7 and 8. It's easier to see it as a reader, but for example, you can keep the full body shots in 7 and still add the following frames by putting the characters as cutouts over frames to save space.

Overall, and more importantly, it looks like a fun read

Nothing was as hard as making dialogues.

YES! making dialogue that fits in panels is so much harder than it seems. Probably one of the points I still struggle with the most.

There's a LOT of information out there about dialogues and paneling, but this recent video might help you elaborate more on the draft. It's especially useful when analyzing the flow line.

As a final point, I would still recommend posting on going work in the discord forum manga. I realize it can be intimidating, but we're not that many there active at a time, and you might get some good feedback as well. People are usually very supportive about the work you're doing.

Of course you're not obligated to do so, so no worries if you want to keep it at the forums.

Either way looking forward to seeing more!

[patrycja.lerch]

Thank you @mitsuki-youko!

how so? as in you can't decide if you want right to left (the Manga way) or left to right (western comics)?

It just me accidentaly doing both at the same time One page the western way and the other manga way. I am going with western reading order but I also want manga style drawing for this one so it might get confusing. We will see how it works out

I should totally finish em tho xD even tho my art will get better and i'll have to redraw it again when i make the comic. and this laziness of not wanting to have to redraw later is what is blocking me from really finishing the mini comic xD

I think you should just do it. I want to redraw every single artwork I did and I have lots of things that I think of doing but I don't want to because I don't have the skill or courage. If I already did that it wouldn't be so intimidating

Thank you @daceronine!

Forgive my messy sketches

) I'm not as familiar with the charactrs, so while it was clear what Eve was doing in pg1 and 2

My bad. Should have colored them, it will be clear who is who on final version

2) Not sure what "8th" is...?

She is mad and is pulling boys ears

3) I like the tempo and flow, some pages could probably be compressed

Me thinking I should spread it more heh. I initially had it in 2 pages. 3 and 4 were one page but I felt like dividing it. She enters room and there is just them standing there and nothing more maybe will add more panels on page 3

I've seen a lot of big super detailed comic pages lately so its mostly my urge to do full page drawings. And it is going to be inking practice, which I avoid, so I don't mind more work.

I am going to think more about it and tweak some parts

this recent video might help you elaborate more on the draft.

thank you!

I would still recommend posting on going work in the discord forum manga. I realize it can be intimidating, but we're not that many there active at a time

I will get there eventually. It's just too much for me

Anyway we will see what comes of it when I am done. Have to start somewhere right

[daceronine]

My bad. Should have colored them, it will be clear who is who on final version

Oh I didn't mean it like that, the draft IS intended to be messy. As long as you understand it I think it's fine. And to distinguish them you probably don't need too much elaborate points in the draft, making Rai's hair black was a good distinction, something as simple as maybe adding a white color to Eve and a yellow color to Cal would be enough.

Really the draft only takes more importance when read by a third party, like an editor or a team worker which is not the case just yet.

She is mad and is pulling boys ears

I meant, for example in page 6 she says "You could just put 8th on." and then they reply "You forgot about 8th" ?

On regards to panels, you probably have the right idea. Some feedback I got recently was that my pages get harder to read in mobile due to using more than 3 tiers, so keep it spaced out and in 3 tiers or less is probably a better idea for general readability (and to appreciate the art more). I'll probably try to move that way as well.

Have to start somewhere right

So very right! Really excited about seeing more of your comic work!

[patrycja.lerch]

Oh that '8th' is sth something

[gregorya]

This looks interesting so far. I think you can compress some of the pages to make it flow a little better.

[patrycja.lerch]

Thank you @gregorya!

I can't really focus on anything right now...

I am working on Eve's design an got a new idea what to do with her, changed quite a lot

I couldn't start working on cleaning up comic so I thought I would try Smaugust. I'm enjoying it so far.
Based on prompts from @ryuvhiel
Asian water monitor, Central Bearded Dragon and mexican alligator lizard

I love how the last one came out. I had so much fun with colors

Have a beautiful day!