Ihalom - Art School Journey

williamclemens8 2024-07-27 01:27:44 UTC #153

my God those clothes look absolutely peak man

Ihalom 2024-07-29 23:31:50 UTC #154

@daceronine thank you. On top of all that I decided to take one more 8-week course, so trying to make the time for all of it is really hard :P. But the emergency is over now, so I can slowly try to catch up with some things :).

@williamclemens8 thank you. they are also extremely time consuming and really hard at times. I still don't really get all those tension points and how to place them, I'm still mostly copying what I see, but I hope at the end of those assignments I'll be able to understand way more

Ihalom 2024-07-29 23:37:01 UTC #155

3 out of 12.
I took a half day of break from all the other stuff to make this one.
Not really happy with this - the skirt turned out to be way more difficult and confusing than I thought, probably because of this pattern.
And for this I change the image to grayscale to see more values I was about to paint :).

I probably might sit a bit longer with it, but more than 2 hours was enough for me. I just hope I'll be able to slowly add some more, soft lineart to those paintings, to make them pop a bit more.
Overall it's not that bad. I already picked all of the references a couple weeks ago and I intend to stick to them, so I'm choosing from the easies ones xD

Ihalom 2024-09-03 17:31:31 UTC #156

First out of three environmental studies for this term.
This time, instead searching and drawing conv. lines directly on the reference, I've tried to build it myself from the scratch. It wasn't easy and I ended up tracing some lines on ref anyway, but I kept that only for getting some more information about the perspective.

The separate thing was a fact that I've notice that I used an AI generated reference for this one and since I thought it doesn't matter that much, it was a big mistake, because I guess AI doesn't know how to create images anyway and they look good only with a first glimpse on an eye. Once I start to analyze it and search for details and how they're done, I've found an enormous amount of mistakes and my work slowed drastically because of that .
So because of this, my perspective may seem a bit different from the reference one, and I honestly don't really know if it's done properly, but I've learned my lesson and will make sure to not take AI generated pictures as references, even if they look quite cool at first.

daceronine 2024-09-03 18:58:37 UTC #157

Your exercice looks good despite the AI shenanigans!

I actually made the same mistake, I tried to use an AI generated image becuase at first glance it looked cool. Figured I could just correct the obvious mistakes and use it. Just like you, once I started looking at the details, so many things didn't make sense and there were so many things to correct it just wasn't worth it.

I think it's especially troublesome to use them while learning as it could skew some of the lessons and provides a faulty template. It's much better to use photos or pro artists as references.

Lesson learned as well. Those lessons are part of the journey, so no biggie, now we know what to do.

uggievang 2024-09-04 02:17:47 UTC #158

Yea it doesnt help that its becoming increasingly hard to find platform that dont flood your search with ai generated images so it can get a bit confusing

Ihalom 2024-09-26 22:40:48 UTC #159

@daceronine Thanks. Yeah, I've been trying to use some AI prompts to get at least poses or some shading copied from it, but as for this enviro, I regretted it pretty quickly. And it's a shame, because I'd really like to learn from some artists whose style is something AI is based on but now it's almost impossible to tell if those are their work at the first glance and I don't want to spend a lot of time when looking for references to look closely on every picture to search the glitches.
Seems only photos are now quite decent source of references and it's a shame. Even some famous anime style pictures I've been trying to learn from are full of this AI crap

@uggievang that is so true. Pinterest is done, same as every google image search. I can try to dig into my own visual library I've been collecting for years, but then I have many things put in one folder, without categorizing and there's no way to find a proper reference quick enough :/.
The quality of everything went down after AI came

Ihalom 2024-09-26 22:52:46 UTC #160

4 out of 12 clothing study.
I haven't done it for so long I completely forgot the steps and I've made a whole lineart for this before I get to render. I wish to combine a nice rendering with some good, crispy lines of contour and I'm looking for a way to do it. Hopefully someday :D.

I also rushed it a little bit, but I'm pretty happy with the result. Clothes are being so hard and even if I'm trying to understand all the tension points and folds, there seem to be a lot of other shades and folds that probably come from the type of textile and influence of the environment.

Also - my first try to dress up a naked photo reference.
I know I should maybe start from something more from imagination to get a better understanding, but this is not that bad :). (and I take every responsibility of putting a yukata on a female, I just realize it way too late -.-')

I manage to put some contour lines around the cloth, but even with that it doesn't look too artificial and strange, so I'm happy with that :D.

I hope to make more exercises soon, as I plan to work a bit more on the course assignments :).

daceronine 2024-09-26 23:41:47 UTC #161

ooh these look really nice! nicely done clothes!

Ihalom 2024-10-23 23:41:11 UTC #162

Damn, this term is going sooo slow for me....

5 out of 12 clothing study. This time I've spent a bit less time on this as I didn't want to use any lineart at all. It may seem to have a bit less contrast than original, but using some spots of value instead of thinking what to do with every single line was an interesting experience :).

Also - second environmental study, to fill out my need for sketchy lines

Even if I messed up the proportions / distances a bit, I really like the look of it. I did my best with observation and building everything myself, only trying to guess how the perspective lines would look like by looking at the original.
Hope I'm making some progress, even if in some days it looks like I'm not

mitsuki-youko 2024-10-25 05:52:03 UTC #163

ooh the studies look rly professional

Ihalom 2024-10-29 16:26:04 UTC #164

@mitsuki-youko oh, you think so? Thank you <3.
I honestly sometimes think like I'm making a step back in my art. Especially when I cannot be consistent with my style :P.
But I'll continue to do my best. I plan to spend a bit more rime now on the course, because I want to go with next lessons and there's still so many assignments to do .

Ihalom 2024-11-14 02:50:53 UTC #165

2/2 2 minute gesture drawing for this term:

I'm pretty happy with those as I managed to make them quite detailed and I tried to start remembering some shapes for anatomy. Although sometimes I had to go a bit over 2 minutes, because some of those poses were just too difficult and I didn't want to end with only half done :P.

kalienator 2024-11-14 17:08:13 UTC #166

Seeing the progression of your studies is really inspiring me to keep going. Really great work!

daceronine 2024-11-17 18:57:38 UTC #167

That's a lot of practice! Nice work!

Ihalom 2024-12-04 22:25:05 UTC #168

@kalienator thank you so much <3. I'm not often check this forum here, but seeing that my work inspire others is the best I could get and I'm so happy

@daceronine thanks so much! it was a lot of work, fortunately having only 2 minutes per pose didn't feel that long and I could fill almost full canvas during one session ^^.

Ihalom 2024-12-04 22:32:53 UTC #169

3rd and last environmental study for this term:

I'm not gonna lie, getting the perspective in a proper way for this was a really tough job and I ended up eyeballing some of those lines :P. I still don't know what else is used for those heavy perspective drawings that they look very natural and at the same time lines seem to not converge to the same horizon. It's very confusing and I don't know where I could find an answer for it.
Maybe studying more perspective would help so I have to get some books about it.

But also, as I'm slowly progressing through this 3rd term, I managed to make 5 heads from imagination. Although keeping them facing the camera was the hardest thing to do XD.

I kept them sketchy for a reason, cause I rushed it a little bit and ended up working on one layer only. I'm drawing way less recently due to some health issues and I must admit, I somehow forgot how to make a proper face

daceronine 2024-12-09 02:59:38 UTC #170

Ouch, hope you get better!

Env looks pretty good for eyeball! Wish I could say something that could help, but I also struggle with perspective a lot. Other than using rulers to attempt to extract the perspective of a reference, there's not much else I can recommend other than to keep practicing.

It's one of those things that you become more adept the more you observe and try it.

Heads also look great! I'd say you still know how to properly make them.

Ihalom 2025-01-15 19:44:07 UTC #171

@daceronine thank you. It's being ups and downs for the past months, but I'm under some physical therapy and I hope it'll work to make me better
yeah, I think observation is the key and after about a hundred studies or so there's a chance to either make those studies faster or try to mimic the methods that's been used and somehow make it work XD.
In any way - it's a lot of work XD.

Ihalom 2025-01-15 19:55:31 UTC #172

6-8 clothing studies (out of 12).
First two are so far may favorite and turned out great. The last one is a bit half-assed, but I think I choose the wrong photo with a material that's too much textured and it messed up with my perception of folds.

Also, another three of putting cloth onto undressed figure. I've decided to not make it too rendered as I think of this exercise as of something that helps me understand how the folds can react on body and sometimes I'm spending too much time with this, I don't have much energy to render it :P.

Also - I've noticed that with this assignment using and AI generated clothes is not that bad as I only need to see the main shape and folds and I can adjust the rest quite easily :). I still don't like using it, but picking a first seen reference saves a lot of time :).

All those are works from the past month, my back still won't let me to sit too long with drawing, so I'm trying to take it easy, but also trying to learn how to draw faster. So the rendered studies takes between 1,5 to 2 hours of work, while the other cloths I'm getting done in around 40 minutes to an hour.
So I think I've sped up the process a little bit

Looking forward to work more on the assignments, so I could finally go to the next topic and next term soon.